Blazblue: Continuum Shift [TaitoTypeX²/XBOX360/PS3]

EkusuKariba schrieb:

Was zur Hölle meinst du mit invincible invincible?
UL Hakumen ist sicher nicht invincible.

Die CPUs killste wie die meisten Spieler auch.. blocken und angreifen.
Zu Beginn jeder Runde macht UL Hakumen immer irgendwas, wo du ne easy CH Combo bekommst.
-> Einfache 3~4k Combo

Dann einfach weitere (CH)-Hits bekommen und deine Combos machen. Die Computer blocken zwar jedes High/Low Mixup, aber dann brauchste halt nur Dinger wie 5b treffen.. das is nicht sonderlich schwierig.

invincible Frames due to his moves. z.B. beim dash oder Hotaru gespamme oder Yukikaze während man irgendwo steht. Mit haku ist es schwer gleich combos zu machen IMO. starte meistens mit 5D klappt zu 95%. Danach fängt sich unl. haku mega schnell. Follow up? Deshalb bräuchte ich ja tips. zudem hält er mich dann meist in der corner ohne chance wieder ins spiel zu kommen. zudem laufe ich immer in seinen Counter (Zanshin)

Tager Beginner Mode - drück C dann macht er Tager Buster, drück C wenn Gegner am boden liegt dann macht er Gadget Finger danach wieder C für Tager Buster. wenn du 50 Heat hast A+B halten für 720 statt Buster - repeat.

Danke hatte ich mir auch schon überlegt. ich komme aber mit dem beginner mode nicht klar. Zumindest schaffe ich es gar nicht erst bis zu Ihm. Wollte es ausserdem vielleicht auch so schaffen

lolz tager im beginner mode ich wirbel lieber selbst^^

OMG, endlich erste Bilder von meinem neuen Main:

4gamer.net/games/118/G011877/2…9/screenshot.html?num=001
4gamer.net/games/118/G011877/2…9/screenshot.html?num=002

*o*

nicovideo.jp/watch/1284016979

Ab 14:40 Valkenhayn ingame. Drive Combos und DD.
Sieht verdammt gut aus. Davor werden auch Johnny und Slayer erwähnt aber ich versteh kein Wort

Edit:
Auch ganz interessant: andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/09/taito_download_system/
Wird mit BBCS2 eingeführt. Deswegen wahrscheinlich auch BBCS "2", weil die das Game auf das neue (?) System anpassen.

Valkenhayn Youtube Version: youtube.com/watch?v=GCtdBfdGOtU

sieht richtig gut aus das gameplay könnte vom ersten eindruck her auch nicht leicht werden zu spielen hoffentlich ist bald der 21

Der schaut echt cool aus und da ich eh noch auf Suche nach meinem Main bin wird der dann gleich mal getestet. 10/10 Style Punkte

makoto wird bestimmt mein neuer main.. kanns kaum erwarten

Kumma wie er die Leute trollt!

Jo, sieht ganz nett aus, mal abwarten ob ich ihn mir zulege.

Der Platina Screen mit dem Riesenhammer oder was das sein soll sieht lustig aus.

Hier mal die ersten* Balance-Changes die bei der Präsentation von Continuum Shift 2 aufgefallen sind:

Ragna:
5D on grounded opponents no longer floats
3C is techable
5B>6A gattling is gone
Inferno Divider no longer has wall bounce
Belial edge doesn't bounce as high any more (can still follow up with a quick 5D)

Jin:
2C>5C gattling added (cannot re-input 2C)
B musou knocks down again

Noel:
2C>5C gattling added (cannot re-input 2C)
j4D is damn fast. As if you can't see her falling from the air.
5D reduced invincibility frames

Rachel:
Overall damage increased
5B>2B gattling added
6A activation speed increased
6B on counter slides
6B jump cancel possible on block
2C hit stop increased
5C>C now slides. Mid screen C lobelia>3D> Sword iris/BBL combos. In corner 5C>C>3C can be done for 2 loops.
j2C can be canceled into attacks on landing
Lobeilas come out even when hit
George has been changed (there's a frog gauge now)
Tempest dahlia? what the heck is that? [i think he means it's been removed]

Tager:
Nothing known.
something about his collider mechanics being revised

Taokaka:
new jB, cat motion 2's animation for 2 hits
old jB is now j2B
taunt loop's been nerfed bad. it's now a joke.
drives are more stiff(?), increased hit stop.
health increase [i think.]

Arakune:
overall damage decreased
guarded drive moves give less curse meter

Litchi:
more gattlings without staff
6A with staff must be RC otherwise no followups available
4D slides. follow up possible in corner
6D's level(?) decreased. [maybe priority?]
jC without staff is now techable

Bang:
5B slower start up
2B slower start up
2B>5B gattling added. (cannot reinput 2B)
heavenly phoenix thrust no longer wall bounces for both air and ground
3C is techable
ashura slower start up, no more invincibility frames, has become a joke DD

Carl:
2B>5B gattling added cannot re-input 2B)
ada's gauge recovers slower

hakumen:
jD cannot be followed up
5D increased damage
[something about his yukikaze.]
other than that don't know much

Lambda:
5DD activation slowed
blade summonings are slower

Tsubaki:
5D instantly gives 1 stock, but holding down D gives a slightly slower charge speed
2D starts out slow but the charge speed rapidly increases. Also more stiff now.
jD charge speed increased
5B more strong
2BB>5BB gattlings added (Cannot re-input 2BB)
236A start up time increased, if comboed into cannot be follow up [i think.]
214A, B doesn't float opponent even when done by itself
623A on counter hit, untechable time decreased so cannot follow up
cannot cancel into any move from throw, throw slides. mid screen do 236D
to follow up, in corner can follow up with normal combos.
after air throw timing for follow up attacks more strict

Hazama:
Ouroboros start up and move speed slowed (although it really feel like there's no difference)
Ouroboros gauge takes longer to recover
5B level reduced. If 5B>3C is not inputted with the fastest timing it won't combo.

Makoto:
parry cancel gone
5B faster start-up, can jump cancel even on block.

Valkenhayn:
cannot block or crouch in wolf form. cannot switch directions.

Quelle: Dustloop / Jap.Original

EDIT: Anmerkung: ich will vorweg sagen, das dies eben Änderungen sind, die noch von einer nicht fertigen Version stammen, es kann (und da bin ich mir sicher) sich bei den nächsten Loke-Tests noch einiges ändern von daher haltet bitte das Geweine auf einem zivilisierten NIevau okay?

Anmerkung 2: der Punkt bei Hakumen bezüglich Yukikaze wurde bei mir in etwa so übersetzt, das der Move jetzt bei Hit den gegner ins Stagger versetzt, ich sag aber gleich das es sich evtl um einen Übersetzungsfehler handeln kann. (habs nur mit ner Übersetzungsmaschine gecheckt)

jC without staff is now techable

Yeah neue Combos lernen

Wenn wir schon mal dabei sind

Valkenhayn

"Step Character" - has reasonable range. Good at follow-ups while doing damage.

cannot crouch/block in beast mode/ [something odd about walking left and right based on attack/throw? direction]

5A, 2A - small punches
5B - kick
2B - low kick
6A - some kind of knee kick
6B - some kind of mid attack
5C - ridiculously long kick; reaches far
6C - flying kick; hits mid ; feet invincible; no disadvantages even on guard; crushing attack
2C - anti-air kick; fast startup; crushing attack
3C - knockdown kick
j.A, j.B - par for the course
j.C - downward kick; even Slayer would be surprised how good this is.
236A - called "Hell's Fang" - slight advantage on hit
236B - has B-follow-up; low rush
236C - "Upper"-type rush; hits mid
Beast A - low clawing motion
Beast B - stabs upward; head invincible
Beast j.A - clawing motion
Beast j.B - rages about in mid-air
Beast C - goes airborne quickly
Beast 236A, 236B - wolf charge; A moves horizontally, B moves diagonally upward
Beast 236D - command throw, 2300 damage
632146D - like Chipp's FujiyamaGeisha super; left defenseless if all hits are guarded
j.236236C - Chokkagata Dandy
214214214D - Astral Heat ; launches opponent, transforms, [something happens involving moon]

Impressions: Valkenhayn is too strong as he is now.
Runners up are Rachel, Arakune; goodbye to Ragna, Bang, and Litchi!

Valkenhayn has lots of options; I'll confirm tomorrow some things I may have forgotten.
The other characters felt a little strange/suspicious, so I'll test more tomorrow.

Is this not enough notes? People are saying that more and more!
Individual accounts of Lambda have suspicious information. Will test tomorrow.

dustloop.com/forums/showthread…147&viewfull=1#post749147

So, habe mal die entstandene Diskussion hierhin ausgelagert:
Der BBCS und BBCS2 Diskussions-Thread

Hier bitte News und Facts posten, diese können dann in dem Diskussions-Thread bequatscht werden.

Und bitte, Fragen, die einem unter den Nägeln brennen, z.B. bzgl. den Challenges und so im Fragenkatalog als Thema formulieren. Dafür ist der Fragenkatalog ja da.

Ich bitte um einen Platinum=The=Trinity Bereich, da sie/er/sie im Loke Test anspielbar ist/sind. Nach und nach werden Infos kommen und sie ist offiziell angekündigt. Aber keine Hast.

Valkenhayn release am 21.9 (nächste Woche Dienstag zum PSN Store update)

blazblue.jp/topics.html#topics144

Neuer Valkenhayn footage

youtube.com/watch?v=_96stPlP0eA

Hier gibts auch noch eine Patchnotes liste(?), hab bisher keine Übersetzung gefunden..

blazblue.jp/info/BB15CS_Information_100919.html

Edit:

Paar Übersetzungen aus Dustloop

-Matching speed of Ranked Matches improved.

-The specs of Makoto's special attack "Space Counter" (Parrying) have been adjusted.

Network mode now remembers what character you used last.

Challenge mode now autosaves when you complete a mission rather than waiting for you to exit to menu.

Hier die ganzen Änderungen: Quelle Dustloop, dooku

Translation of changes listed here: blazblue.jp/info/BB15CS_Information_100919.html

PS3 patch - 9/20 Valk - 9/21 (JPN time)
360 patch/Valk - delayed

System changes & bug fixes
- Trophy/Acheivement update w/ Valk DLC
- Faster matching speed in Ranked Matches
- Fixed a problem where some effects didn't disappear, which made the game have to process more info.
- On Kagatsuchi Port (Rain) stage, fixed a problem where an environmental sound effect didn't play correctly
- Fixed a problem where under certain circumstances if you choose Makoto in Player Matches the character select screen glitched.
- Fixed a problem in training mode where sound effects may not stop under certain conditions.
- Game now autosaves after completing each mission in challenge mode, you no longer have to go back to the main menu to save progress for that.
- Now when clearing score attack, your final score is displayed (this wasn't done before? never played score attack)
- Fixed the problem where in Legion mode DLC character portrait icons appeared, even though they're unusable in Legion mode.
- In network mode it remembers the last character you chose, and defaults to them.
- On network mode results after matches, "Used character PSR" and "Top PSR" information is displayed.
- Fixed a problem where in Ranked Matches / Quick Match the matching system would lock up and not advance.
- When training in ranked / player matches, on the character select screen you can now hit select/back to return to the room.
- Fixed some typos.

Character adjustments & bug fixes
- Fixed a problem where after George gets hit by Carl's Cantabile special, he started acting oddly.
- Fixed a problem where when using Taokaka's DLC colors, the displayed effects became distorted.
- Fixed a problem where icons sometimes did not display correctly near the health guage when Nirvana dies.
- In challenge mode, when using Λ-11's gravity well, the gauge auto-refills (I guess after dropping the combo, so you no longer have to wait for it to recharge)
- Fixed a problem which caused v-13's ghost merging with Λ-11 during her intro vs. Ragna to display incorrectly.
- Fixed a problem where if you pause during Tsubaki install the sound effect loops (or if you reset in training mode lol)
- Fixed a problem where under certain conditions after using Hazama's Jakou the effects didn't disappear properly after the move executes.
- Fixed a problem where Hazama didn't use the correct voice set vs. certain characters in Network Mode.
- Fixed a problem with V-13's voice set in Network Mode.
- Changes made to how Makoto's Space Counter (Parry) input functions. (Probably goodbye parry loop imo)
- Changed something about how holding the D button to charge Makoto's Big Bang Smash and Planet Crusher.
- Changes made to Makoto's beginner mode.
- Fixed a problem where during Makoto's Planet Crusher Astral her crest effect didn't display.
- Fixed the problem where after getting hit by Makoto's Planet Crusher Astral you could still move around sometimes.

PS3 Specific fix:
- Fixed a problem where after clearing score attack and uploading your score, it wasn't registered.

360 Specific fix:
- Fixed a problem where PSR was added during Player Matches.

Bevor der Patch kommt, muss ich unbedingt diese ganzen Glitches ma ausprobiern xp

Zum EU-Erscheinungstermin (Ja, ich weiss, interessiert hier keinen):
Gamestop in Düsseldorf hatte das Spiel garnicht gelistet (Stand Anfang September) und Amazon gibt den 31. Dezember 2010 an. Aber mein Spieledealer hat letztens erstmal meine Vorbestellung für den 30.10. angenommen, also bin ich guter Dinge.