El Fuerte Gimmicks/Tricks/Shenanigans

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    • El Fuerte Gimmicks/Tricks/Shenanigans

      auf gehts!
      hab leider alles auf englisch wegen dem srk-forum, kein bock nochmal alles neu auf deutsch zu schreiben :P
      falls doch großer andrang darauf besteht, dann könnt ich mir überlegen es wirklich zu übersetzen.


      slide + slide teleport works on (slide an gegner getroffen -> sofort wieder sliden um auf der anderen seite zu sein):

      SETH
      ABEL
      EL FUERTE


      "hitstun/blockstun warp" with f+mk (all tested with clst.hp/cr.mk xx run, INSTANTLY f+mk. clst.hp got the best results for warping) you have to be very close to your opponent, does not work if opponent is in the corner:

      hitstun - - - RYU (only if standing)
      hitstun - - - KEN (only if standing)
      hitstun - - - IBUKI (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - DUDLEY (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - SETH (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - GOUKEN (only if crouching: SOMETIMES hits front but warps to the other side)
      hitstun - - - AKUMA (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - GEN (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - CHUN-LI (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - CAMMY (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - ZANGIEF (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - EL FUERTE (on standing & crouching)
      hitstun - - - C. VIPER (only if standing: hits front but warps to the other side)
      hitstun - - - CODY (on standing & crouching, SOMETIMES f+mk hits front but you warp to the other side)
      hitstun - - - GUILE (only if crouching, SOMETIMES f+mk hits front but warps to the other side)
      hitstun - - - BOXER (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - FEI LONG (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - T. HAWK (only if standing: f+mk hits front but warps to the other side)
      hitstun - - - ADON (only if crouching)
      hitstun - - - ROSE (only if crouching)


      hitstun & blockstun - CLAW (both if crouching)
      hitstun & blockstun - DAN (hitstun on standing/crouching dan works, blockstun works only if he is crouching)
      hitstun & blockstun - SAKURA (hitstun on crouching sakura, blockstun on crouching sakura: f+mk hits front but warps to the other side)
      hitstun & blockstun - DICTATOR (hitstun & blockstun teleport work on crouching dictator, blockstun on standing DICTATOR: f+mk hits front but warps to the other side)
      hitstun & blockstun - DEEJAY (hitstun only if crouching, blockstun only if standing)

      blockstun - DHALSIM (only if standing)


      SOMETIMES = muss nochn bisschen mehr getestet werden.
      werde davon auchn video machen weil die meisten wahrscheinlich damit nix anfangen können :D
      please respond

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    • Shenanigans

      alles nachdem man das erste getroffen hat. alles selbst aufgeschrieben, folgt noch EINIGES mehr.
      kleine bemerkung am rande: alles KANN wake-up moves mit invul-frames schlagen ODER traden. oberste priorität ist wake-up moves zu baiten.

      slide, run back/run forward, tortilla/tossada/fajita/slide
      slide, f+mk shenanigans for itself (removes charge, works against all characters except rufus and blanka)
      slide, f+mk, instant st.hk (hits meaty on all characters that are crouching, ovearhead with second hit, beats wakeup FA because of farst.hk doing 2 hits)
      slide, wait splitsecond, f+mk, meaty cr.mk/st.hp
      slide, f+mk, (wait splitsecond), meaty farst.hp link to hk-super (crouching opponents seems easier)
      slide, run back a little, ambigious crossup with hp/airthrow (airthrow to catch backdashing)



      tortilla, dash x2, wait splitsecond, run back -> tortilla/tossada/fajita
      tortilla, dash x3, run back a little -> tortilla/tossada/fajita
      tortilla, dash x3, run back a little, jump-in hp/airthrow (fake-tortilla, airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)
      tortilla, dash x1, walk forward tiny bit, whiff st.lk, ambigious crossup with hp (safejump OS ex-guac works VERY well on adon)

      tortilla, instantly jump forward, run back -> tortilla/tossada/fajita
      tortilla, instantly jump forward, run back a little, jumpi-in hp/airthrow (can be ambigious depending on timing/spacing, airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)
      tortilla, instantly jump forward, run back a little, meaty f+mk
      tortilla, instantly jump forward, run back a little, meaty slide (cr.hk)
      tortilla, instantly jump forward, instantly slide (cr.hk), meaty cr.lk or throw (opponent will think you hit them with meaty slide, but it whiffs)

      tortilla, lk-guacamole, instantly jump forward, meaty cr.lk/cr.mk
      tortilla, mk-guacamole, walk forward a tiny bit, ambigious crossup with hp/airthrow (airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)
      tortilla, mk-guacamole, wait a tiny bit, ambigious jumpin with hp/airthrow (airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)
      tortilla, mk-guacamole, wait a little, run back INSTANTLY tortilla/tossada/fajita
      tortilla, hk-guacamole, run back a little -> tortilla/tossada/fajita
      tortilla, hk-guacamole, run back a little, jump-in hp/airthrow (fake-tortilla, airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)

      tortilla, f+mk, wait splitsecond, meaty f+mk
      tortilla, f+mk, f+mk (switches sides with the opponent, does not work on rufus and blanka)
      tortilla, f+mk, meaty slide (cr.hk)
      tortilla, f+mk, run back a little -> tortilla/tossada/fajita
      tortilla, f+mk, run back a little, ambigious jumpin with hp/airthrow (airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)

      tortilla, instantly slide (cr.hk), wait a little, meaty slide (cr.hk)
      tortilla, instantly slide, f+mk (switches sides with the opponent, does not work on rufus and blanka)
      tortilla, instantly slide, wait splitsecond, meaty f+mk
      tortilla, instantly slide, run back a little -> tortilla/tossada/fajita
      tortilla, instantly slide, run back a little, ambigious jumpin with hp/airthrow (airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)
      tortilla, instantly slide, mk-guacamole (to switch sides with opponent, removes charge)
      tortilla, instantly slide, run back tiny bit, st.hk (hits overhead on crouching opponent, wakeup FA does not work because of st.hk doing 2 hits)


      tossada, run back/run forward tossada/tortilla/fajita/slide
      tossada, wait a splitsecond, meaty f+mk
      tossada, f+mk (switches sides with the opponent, does not work on rufus and blanka)
      tossada, wait a moment, ambigious jump-in with hp/airthrow (airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)
      tossada, instantly empty-jump forward for shenanigans


      fajita, run back/forward tossada/tortilla/fajita/slide
      fajita, run forward a little, ambigious jump-in with hp/airthrow (airthrow to catch backdashing/jumping)
      fajita, instantly run forward and run stop f+mk (switches sides with the opponent, does not work on rufus and blanka)
      fajita, instantly slide (cr.hk), whiffs for shenanigans
      please respond

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