Pro Tutorials und Coaching fürs Geld

Ora KenDeep orA schrieb:

RYO schrieb:

Ich würde niemandem auch nur 1 Cent für Spieltips zahlen. In einer guten Community sollte es selbtverständlich sein sich gegenseitig zu helfen.

;););)

So selbstverständlich ist das gar nicht. Leute frieren sich den Arsch ab um Sachen herauszufinden, und andere lesen die dann einfach in einer Wiki durch. Leute investieren eine Menge Zeit und Geld, beides jeweils Wertvoll, für ihr Hobby. Eigentlich ist das sogar überhaupt nicht selbstverständlich sondern ein Luxus, den viele nicht verstehen.

Heißt natürlich nicht dass keine Hilfe = gut ist. Nur ist dein Satz zumindenst in den meisten Teilen in Europa, leider gottes auch hier in Deutschland, nicht gültig.

[DZ]ZEE schrieb:

@RYO

welcher Bundeskanzler, schröder?

[DZ]ZEE schrieb:

und zu der kletterhalle, sf kann man daheim am pc oder auf konsole zocken, d.h. man hat schonmal definitiv weniger zeitdruck, als wenn man 3,50€(?) die Stunde für das Nutzen der Halle zahlt. von daher vlt. mal über verhältnismäßigkeiten nachdenken, hobby ist nicht gleich hobby.

Review: SSFIV Lesson with Justin Wong
by Bushinryuken » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:45 am

Have you wondered what it's like to get a lesson from a true pro at Super Street Fighter IV? You've heard about guys like Justin Wong, Marn and Mike Ross charging for lessons but don't know whether it is worth your money for the amount of time, etc. I can however speak on behalf of Justin Wong and tell you all what an hour lesson with him is like.

A while ago there was a post right here on Eventhubs advertising the lessons that they are now offering. They sounded cool but I wondered to myself "What can I really expect? All I see are people arguing back and forth in comments." I decided to send a message to Justin Wong via Facebook to clear my confusion and get a clear answer. His response was as follows, "Well, I will show you the right combos and also ways to get in the offensive mode since you are playing as Guy. I'm pretty sure most of your problems revolve around getting zoned out by any character with cheap normals or moves. I will also teach you what type of risk you should take to get in. Also what things you shouldn't do for positioning or how unsafe things are. But usually for an hour of playtime you can expect to know which combos are better to do, some better zoning tactics and better knowledge of match up exp." This was exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for and decided to go for the lessons, two hours.

I am a Guy player till the day I die, converted from Ryu who was my main in SFIV. The goal of these two lessons was to specifically improve my game as Guy, not just general strategy improvement. For both lessons he started me off with a few rounds to test where I was at, to see what kind of mistakes I was making. During the first lesson it was obvious I stood no sort of chance against him. Unsafe slides from too close, predictable wake up game, etc. What Justin excels at in these lessons is teaching you great ways to combo and move in that are not present in the game's trial mode. For example, the trial mode will not teach you mix-ups that you can do from medium punch/heavy punch into Bushin flip, etc. I had seen some of these things in videos of him against Daigo or read about it in forums, but that's just not the same as having someone personally tell you how to do it and especially WHY you should do it. There is a huge difference between reading a strategy on a forum and having somebody who deeply understands it help you learn how/why you need to use it in real-time. I can say with confidence that within two hours he taught me how to properly start using block strings which is something most "average" players are pretty bad at, how to zone a little better and really great mix-ups as Guy. (resets in the corner, mix-ups out of elbow drop) I no longer feel like I have a small repertoire of attacks that the opponent can figure out in one round, the way it was before my lessons.

My strongest point I'd like to focus on these lessons though is the match up experience that you can learn from somebody like Justin Wong. He doesn't play Guy at tournaments, yet he would ask me who my tough match ups are, play as those characters and teach me how to properly counter all the moves that give me the most trouble. The best example I will give here is solid Balrog experience. I have an old coworker who I play with all the time, he's a Balrog player. Jose Vega, (FightProvoker on XBL) I have been playing against him for months now, since Vanilla. When me and this coworker play we sit down for at least 2-3 hours at a time a few times a week. Through my own experience fighting him and trying to fight bad habits my win ratio against him was horrible, at best 4 losses for every 1 victory. Because of this I asked Justin if we could spend some of the time having him teach me what I can do against him. By the end of the lessons I was punishing dashes with standing medium punch, overhead dashes with block and then light punch, all kinds of things that I didn't know I could do beforehand. Before, all I knew was to do crouching medium sweep because it hit twice and to toss out a throw to punish EX dashes, that was it. By the end of my second lesson I was actually giving Justin Wong decent matches where I wasn't getting walked all over (at least most of the time!), that's saying a lot.

These lessons are incredibly worth the time and money that goes into them if you can afford even just one or two lessons. I now do a lot better against my friends who play my bad match ups and they no longer feel so bad at all. To some $35/hour might seem steep, but I will give some assurance here to the community. During a lesson with Justin Wong he truly has your learning in mind and is not just out to get your money. When asking when to do our lessons I asked if it would be from 1:30 - 3:30 last Thursday. However, he said he'd prefer to break it up into two sessions so that I could have a few days to practice what I learned between lessons so that I can really maximize what he is teaching me and be able to apply it to the next lesson. Sure enough, having three full days to practice before my next lesson I was using everything Justin had taught me in the bouts against him in the next lesson which made it easier for him to not focus on those things and instead focus on other strategies instead. Many people in this community will say to just hit up Shoryuken or hit up your local scene. These are indeed fantastic sources that I frequent, but I most certainly learned a lot more in two hours than I have in weeks/months on any forum. What I will say is this, when I go to Arcade Infinity the line alone makes it hard to get in a match against one of these pros let alone play more than once so I can learn more. Getting a pro to yourself for an hour to really take your game to the next level if you're stuck is an opportunity that is definitely worth considering.
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The Yoga Tower schrieb:

Natürlich ist es verwerflich! Ein Tipp: Einfach mal die rosa Brille abnehmen. Viel Spaß in der Wirklichkeit. Wer's nicht versteht; weiter machen! :good: